4/22/2024

By Eclogia

  1. Other
    • Link section update

    The Kimaris update happened, but then we realized some things slipped by and we could use a better link section. Kimaris' Tier List mirror now has the New Player FAQ and various links!

4/13/2024

By Eclogia

  1. Other
    • FAQ update

    Updated the FAQ page with relevant info and new members. The Kimaris website version of the TL especially didn't have fitting explanations up until... when it will take this update into account, in a few days!

4/3/2024

By Ivory

  1. Upshift
    • Istvan: Scarred Pith

    Updated from S (N) to S+ (N)

    Update to the update, Istvan Alter's performance both within and especially out of element has exceeded expectations, to which we felt his ranking to be on par with Louise's.

4/2/2024

By Ivory

  1. New Unit Rating
    • Tiare

    Initial rating: S/S+

    Apologies for the extreme lateness. Cuzi is currently in hell with university projects, I was sick for the past week, and the others were busy. Anyways, Tiare is actually amazing and a breathe of fresh air to Thunder. She does require quite a lot of attention in terms of Dark Tile placements and where she hits her weakpoints, but if you do overcome all of that, you'll find that she's quite possibly the second strongest Thunder DPS in the game.

  2. New Unit Rating
    • Isa

    Initial rating: A (N)

    Speaking of Dark Tile Thunder units, Isa actually has some good use cases with Tiare and Chen'ni, and can even perform pretty well when given contact dark tiles. She's still incredibly clunky and hard to work around, but she can pretty much work out good in these teams.

  3. New Unit Rating
    • BT3 Smokey

    Initial rating: S+

    We're currently in the process of evaluating how the current max enlightenment affects units, but one we know for sure needed another look at was Smokey. While the %tile generation doesn't affect her reset conversion, the boosts in Attack and Active damage disproportionately boosts her overall performance, to the point where she's a lot closer to regular Detonators. (I.E Gram) On top of her use cases becoming a lot more broad, Smokey is definitely amongst Fire's best flex options.

  4. Upshift
    • Axelia

    Updated from S+ (T) to SS (T)

    Arguably something we should've done a long time ago, but thanks to the introductions of Chen'ni and Tiare, as well as showcases on how ridiculous Tessa teams can be, it was time to finally bring Axelia up to the ranking she deserve.

  5. Other
    • Tessa

    Updated from S+ (T) to S+

    Mostly a formality change. Thanks to both Enlightenment giving Tessa both a sizeable boost in active damage and Attack, she can comfortably compete with others S+ tier detonators even in regular teams.

  6. Upshift
    • Dayna and Vivian

    Updated from A+/A+ (N) to S-/S- (N)

    Dayna was already a good Detonator and we knew how good Vivian's conversion can be, but the team underestimated just how useful feet tile generation can be on these two. So these should rectify that.

2/3/2024

By Cuzimori

  1. New Unit Rating
    • Chen'ni

    Initial rating: A/SS

    We finally got an interesting thunder unit for a change. Chen'ni is amazing, but she does require some thought in order to maximize.

  2. New Unit Rating
    • Luo Song

    Initial rating: C

    Look what they did to my boy.

  3. Downshift
    • BT0 Florine

    Updated from S to A+

    Florine's personal damage has always been greatly exaggerated, and coupled that with the need to wait until turn 5 in order to use the thing she's known for, it takes a huge wind out of her sails.

  4. Upshift
    • Hydrad, Istvan, Louise

    Updated from B+ to A-

    On the flip side, the 5 star double chainers at BT0 aren't that bad, and can be usable.

  5. Other
    • Axelia

    We rewrote Axelia's description to match her current use cases.

1/22/2024

By Cuzimori

  1. New Unit Rating
    • Aglol

    Initial rating: S-/S+

    Well this will be an incredibly short changelong.

    Algol is fantastic, despite her reliance on outside conversion and proper planning. When Fire does get more Dark Tile units, she might even become SS tier. Keep an eye on her.

  2. Upshift
    • Vice: Keen Sight

    Updated from S to S/SS (N)

    Vice: Keen Sight just so happens to have some of the highest damage potential in the game for 1x1, but requires proper play in order to maximize. Codexers can rejoice that they don't have to druse for MBT anymore. (Eclogia sure is happy)

1/7/2024

By Eclogia

  1. Other
    • None

    Updated the FAQ with the Refinement Priority List.

  2. Other
    • Preemptive 2CD Converters

    Updated the note on these converters being SS for 95% of the game. This note is very very old now we've got more content types and units.

1/1/2024

By Cuzimori

  1. New Unit Rating
    • Sheol

    Initial rating: S/SS (T)

    Sheol is probably the most "balanced" broken unit we've ever gotten. Amazing at basically everything who also elevates many other units for her teambuilding.

  2. New Unit Rating
    • Istvan: Scarred Pith

    Initial rating: A+/S (N)

    Istvan: Scarred Pith is a weird yet enticing unit that does have a bright future ahead of him.

  3. New Unit Rating
    • Vergil

    Initial rating: S

    They finally made the "4tc" yellow to blue converter after all this time. He's pretty strong all things considered. Unfortunate that his equipment just isn't.

  4. Upshift
    • Bethlehem

    Updated from A/SS to S/SS

    TD just woke up one day and decided that Bethlehem would be the single most broken unit in the game. I don't know why since she was already very good, but we take it.

  5. Upshift
    • Zhong Xu

    Updated from A+/S+ (N) to S-/S+(N)

    After further testing from the community and internally, Zhong Xu's buffs were a lot better than what it appears on the surface. Its good enough to where you can run him outside of push and pull content has still have really good results.

  6. Other
    • Zarya

    The proliferation of dark tiles allows Zarya's split conversion to be incredibly useful, giving her a solid niche in those teams.

12/13/2023

By Cuzimori

  1. New Unit Rating
    • Xuan Ji

    Initial rating: A/S

    Late update for this patch but still in time.

    Xuan Ji is a very average unit, though with the additional drawbacks of wanting BT3. She's the furthest thing from a necessary unit, but she's certainly a decent one if you want her.

  2. New Unit Rating
    • Li Tianxian

    Initial rating: B

    Li Tianxian continues a long trend of our recent new 5* units being worryingly bad. At this point if they're not disappointing I'd be a bit surprised.

  3. Upshift
    • Zhong Xu

    Updated from A/S (N) to A/S+ (N)

    Zhong Xu's buffs improve his roll as a mobbing converter, warranting a mild upshift. His base kit remains somewhat poor, albeit improved.

  4. Upshift
    • Pasolo

    Updated from A+ to A/S (N)

    Pasolo's bleed can be incredibly strong on certain stages. That said, it falls apart in situations where such single target DoT lacks an impact, such as mobbing.

11/23/2023

By Cuzimori

  1. Upshift
    • VIOLET

    Updated from B to A

    So part 2 is here, and this is basically our yearly check up on older units.

    Lets start off with something positive, VIOLET is actually pretty decent, and her ceiling is quite good. Unfortunately her reliance on getting AoA and her chain combo being a column chain hinders her from going higher, its something we underrated for such a long time.

  2. Upshift
    • Vic

    Updated from A+ to A/S (N)

    While our original evaluation of Vic still stands, he has a surprising amount of content where he's not only a compelling option, but also downright the best one.

  3. Downshift
    • Momo and Anzu

    Updated from A to A-

    Now onto the downshifts. Momo and Anzu's ceiling is only really decent, whereas the rest of her kit is incredibly clunky to bring it out.

  4. Downshift
    • Zarya

    Updated from S to S-

    After more testing and feedback from the community, we realized that we overrated Zarya's effects, especially at BT0. She's still good, but you definitely feel the struggle when using her as a core converter.

  5. Downshift
    • QUEEN

    Updated from S to A+

    This was a mistake we made so long ago. QUEEN was never really anything special, and her need of contact points to both deal danage and build AoA hurts her a lot more than we initially expected to.

  6. Downshift
    • Yao

    Updated from A+ to A-

    What happens when you have a unit thats outright mediocre at absolutely everything, coupled with a clunky playstyle that just doesn't reward you? You get Yao.

  7. Downshift
    • Casta

    Updated from A to B+

    Somehow they manage to make a unit thats worse than Yao.

  8. Downshift
    • Pollux BT3

    Updated from SS to SS (T)

    Many, many people have came to us wanting a Pollux downshift due to how screwy her tile shift can be. And while we do agree she is absolutely the worst column converter, she's still a column converter. That said, due to her potential anti-synergies with other converters not named Nemesis, we'd hope this will be enough of a compromise.

11/19/2023

By Cuzimori

  1. New Unit Rating
    • Rebecca

    Initial rating: S-/S+

    Can you believe this is only part 1 of the changes? We needed to release something in order to show people we're still alive.

    Regardless, Rebecca is really good, and has the potential to become a "must have" in the future.
    Surely TD wouldn't forget to release support for the dark tile gimmick, right?

  2. New Unit Rating
    • Isa

    Initial rating: B

    Welcome Isa to the worst 5 stars in the game category! Joselyne says hi!

  3. Upshift
    • BT0 Leyn

    Updated from A+ to S-

    Turns out BT0 Leyn still holds his own vs other 6 star detonators. Just don't expect anything crazy.

10/29/2023

By Cuzimori

  1. New Unit Rating
    • Dantang

    Initial rating: S/SS

    So this is how Tourdog decide to treat CN, by just giving them Hiiro 2, Fire edition.

  2. Upshift
    • Patty and Patsy

    Updated from B+ to A-/S+

    Patty and Patsy has quite possibly the most abusable equipment in the entire game. Thanks Lilica for making her playable!

  3. Upshift
    • Beryl

    Updated from S- to S

    Turns out her floor is a lot higher than we gave her credit for. Also funny SS tier ceiling.

  4. Upshift
    • Kafka

    Updated from B to A

    We underrated how significant her buffs turned out to be. Hachi and Gin finally has some competition.

  5. Upshift
    • Kanna

    Updated from B- to A-

    The biggest buffs she recieved was Axelia's existence.

  6. Downshift
    • Tohru

    Updated from S to S-

    Wow she has not aged well at all.

  7. Downshift
    • Charon

    Updated from S to S-

    Charon always felt like he was hard carried by his utility, in which he does not have access to on turn 1...

  8. New Unit Rating
    • Charon BT3

    Initial rating: S+

    ...on the other hand, not only does he bring plenty of good utility, his Refinements turned out to be around a 20% increase in overall damage on burst turns. In which having pre-emptive strikes helps that a lot.

  9. Other
    • Zhong Xu and Tiny One

    Updated from to

    Updated their description to match the current state of Fire's conversion.

10/25/2023

By Eclogia

  1. Other
    • None

    Updated from to

    Updated the FAQ and the useful links.

10/7/2023

By Cuzimori

  1. Upshift
    • No. 33

    Updated from A+ (N) to S (N)

    Mostly a bump to her Niche rating. We recieved feedback that the N rating itself is too low, so we hoped this rectifies that.

10/3/2023

By Cuzimori

  1. Upshift
    • Yingel

    Updated from A-/S to S-/S+

    Well it looks like we pulled a Tina, again. (Yingel also better be glad that Wrath Alter exists)

  2. Downshift
    • Carleen: Smouldering Soul BT0

    Updated from S to S-

    As time moves on, Carmoon's inability to act on Turn 1 turns out to be a significant downside...

  3. New Unit Rating
    • Carleen: Smouldering Soul BT3

    Initial rating: S+

    ...but also as time moves on, Carmoon's jack of all trades nature allows her to have some of the best synergies in her element, while also being an incredibly strong proactive unit.

  4. Upshift
    • Constantine

    Updated from C to B

    His single target performance is actually pretty decent. Unfortunately does not branch out at all outside of that, but still.

  5. Upshift
    • Joanie Boom

    Updated from A (N) to S (N)

    The weirdest character TD has ever released.

  6. Downshift
    • Barton: DB

    Updated from S- to A+

    This has been a long time coming. Barton: Deft Blades is one of the worst 6 stars in the game at practically everything...

  7. New Unit Rating
    • Barton: DB

    Initial rating: S (N)

    ..besides high powered mobbing stages where he gains a bunch of stacks. In said stages, he pops off very well. But its debatable whether or not he's worth it for that alone.

  8. Upshift
    • Tiny One

    Updated from A to A+

    Mostly a formality change. Zhong Xu's base rating is A+, so we figured to bring her rating up to the same level.

10/2/2023

By Cuzimori

  1. New Unit Rating
    • Zarya

    Initial rating: S

    Zarya is extremely pretty, and she is pretty solid despite mostly being a sidegrade to a free 5 star. Also she looks like Furina!!!!!!! (Which Idk if thats a good thing or not)

  2. New Unit Rating
    • Antony

    Initial rating: A/S-

    What if we made Hiiro, but bad, and then make him not work in the element's most broken team.

  3. New Unit Rating
    • No. 33

    Initial rating: C/A+ (N)

    No. 33 is a funny "seperate the people with skill from the people who has skill issue" unit that will probably see play from codexers.

9/9/2023

By Ivory

  1. Other
    • Uriel

    Added an addendum to Uriel's write up to mention how MBT impacts her.

9/8/2023

By Ivory

  1. Upshift
    • Wrath: Proud Fervor BT0

    Updated from S to S+

    Just a small edit to her BT0 tier. As it turns out, you don't really need pre-emptive strike on her to reach S+ tier damage and have strong mobbing. It does put more pressure on you to land those off chains, however.

9/6/2023

By Ivory

  1. New Unit Rating
    • Wrath: Proud Fervor

    Initial rating: S-S+

    Wrath Alter is great. Unfortunately though she's both not unique enough to stand on her own two feet, but also in the element with the most oppressive unit in the game.

  2. New Unit Rating
    • Joselyne

    Initial rating: B

    Quite possibly the single worse post release unit we've gotten.

  3. Upshift
    • Beryl

    Updated from A to S- - S+(T)

    My favorite set of buffs from TD. New Beryl is absolutely amazing. Though she requires a team built around her to maximize her mobbing and damage output, she's nontheless in an amazing spot rn.

  4. Upshift
    • Fleur

    Updated from S- to S

    Fleur is really good now with his defense ignore. Only slightly behind Mythos while also having significantly better mobbing and 2x2 performance.

  5. New Unit Rating
    • Uriel MBT

    Initial rating: SS (N)

    MBT Uriel can absolutely trivialize several stages thanks to her conversion, while also being an incredibly strong sub-dps when the enemies are vulnerable to burn. Still niche compared to other options, however.

  6. New Unit Rating
    • Taki MBT

    Initial rating: A+

    MBT Taki has proven to be a pretty decent jack of all trades unit. Still not the most ideal unit, but he can put in some work.

  7. New Unit Rating
    • Benny and Curo MBT

    Initial rating: S-

    Benny and Curo has been long debated on whether or not they should be S-. So here we are putting her there, with the catch that she really needs MBT, and her own teams built around her limitations.

8/24/2023

By Ivory

  1. Other
    • Allura

    Rewrote her description to state the 200% extra def ignoring damage.

8/17/2023

By Ivory

  1. Other
    • Bopper

    Moved her into support.

8/15/2023

By Ivory

  1. New Unit Rating
    • Lorelei

    Initial rating: A+/SS

    Yet another long changelog.

    Lorelei is amazing. Not only is she Fire's first good select tile converter (on global), but also her EQ is among the best in the game. Really fun.

  2. New Unit Rating
    • Cena

    Initial rating: S-

    Behold! Raphael's competitor whose main advantage over her is locked behind MBT!
    Enough joking, Cena is pretty good. Unfortunately his competitors just has many advantages that are usually better than RNG reliant tile shifting.

  3. New Unit Rating
    • Bopper

    Initial rating: A-

    Whats more interesting about a generally mediocre unit is how it might foreshadow a broken synergy in the near future.

  4. Upshift
    • Jona

    Updated from A to A+

    Thanks to her refinements, Jona's floor has risen to a more appreciatable level.

  5. New Unit Rating
    • Jona BT3

    Initial rating: SS (T)

    It... turns out Jona's ceiling is so high that it even makes Hati blush. Now, thanks to Fire finally having the means to ensure contact points, she can finally spread her wings.

  6. Upshift
    • Connolly

    Updated from S- to S

    After some back and forward and her refinements, Connolly can actually imitate Mythos in a better way, while having much better mobbing.

  7. Downshift
    • Florine BT3

    Updated from SS to SS (T)

    As the power of the game continues to increase, Florine's damage potential being locked behind Reinhardt is starting to become much clearer.

  8. Upshift
    • Robyn

    Updated from A to S-

    Robyn's refinements are quite strong, on top of her teamwide buff allowing her to contribute more than it may seem. Also a budget option for Goldie teams.

  9. Upshift
    • Dayna

    Updated from A to A+

    Similar to her sister, however Dayna's chain makes her significantly worse than Robyns.

  10. Upshift
    • Barbara

    Updated from A- to A

    Similar to the other two, but this time her active isn't very good.

  11. Upshift
    • Eve

    Updated from A+ to S

    Her buffs are excellent, even if it got rid of her stun.

  12. Upshift
    • Sylva

    Updated from C to B+

    A very long overdue upshift, Sylva isn't that bad now. Though...

  13. Upshift
    • Cuscuta

    Updated from A to S-

    An error on our part, Cuscuta's refinements actually makes her pretty strong. Unfortunately outside of those refinements, she's incredibly mediocre.

  14. Other
    • Charon

    While his refinements didn't change his grade, we wanted to rewrite him to emphasize the strong niche he has in Fire, alongside the pretty sizeable buffs the refinements are.

  15. Other
    • Axelia

    We've been wanting to rewrite Axelia's description for a long time, but with Bopper's arival, its important now that we do if they plan on making a thunder unit with summonable detonator nukes.

8/14/2023

By Eclogia

  1. Other
    • Various units

    Updated from Calamity to Desolation Codex. DC actually doesn't have as much of an active multiplier, but most write-ups barely got changes.

8/3/2023

By Ivory

  1. Other
    • Maggie

    Slightly reword her description due to Lorelei's arrival.

7/23/2023

By Ivory

  1. Upshift
    • Noah BT0

    Updated from C to B

    Upshifted due to the fact that you don't need shields on turn 1 most of the time.

7/22/2023

By Ivory

  1. Other
    • Brandy

    Rewrote sections of her write up that were very much outdated.

7/11/2023

By Ivory

  1. Other
    • Jona

    Edited her write up a bit to reflect a future prospect she has.

7/10/2023

By Ivory

  1. New Unit Rating
    • Joshua

    Initial rating: S

    Funny execute numbers aside, her overall damage is only slightly better than the average forest 6* sniper. She's strong, but its hard to say that she's worth pulling for.

  2. New Unit Rating
    • Blanc: PC

    Initial rating: B/S-

    Blanc:PC has a lot of issues, but she's ultimately a select tile converter. Good if you lack any other water converters.

  3. New Unit Rating
    • Leona

    Initial rating: S+(T)

    Leona's refinements makes it so that her consistency at applying Burn is singificantly better. That said, she does want specific converters and a playstyle to reach her full potential.

  4. Upshift
    • Corax MBT

    Updated from S- to S

    Refinements, while not huge, are enough to make him competitive with a non-refinement Sharona while also having the pre-emptive utility.

  5. Upshift
    • Uriel BT3

    Updated from S- to S

    Time has been very kind to Uriel. She still has her annoyances, but her combination of teamwide buffs, burn, and conversion allows her to be incredibly strong in many situations.

  6. Other
    • Gabriel

    Description touched up to expand on her role in e-tile teams. She's a pretty high-maintenance unit, but well worth the effort and can give dedicated Goldie teams an entire Burst turn on her own.

  7. Other
    • Lenore

    Added the value of Jeno to her description. 0 Sanity Lenore is very powerful in many situations and is arguably the best mobber in the entire game.

  8. Other
    • Jeno

    Clarified he can still serve as a decent sniper stand-in even on his lonesome.

  9. Other
    • Tessa

    Rewrote description to better illustrate her role and improve phrasing. Tessa can beat out S-tier Detonators on dedicated Axelia+Roy teams, especially with Leyn alongside her to help with getting stacks.

6/29/2023

By Ivory

  1. Other
    • Sharona

    Added to her description on how MBT and Refines can compete with Bethel and Nina in terms of damage.

6/17/2023

By Ivory

  1. New Unit Rating
    • Mia: Lustrous Soul

    Initial rating: S+/SS

    Yet another long changelog coming.
    The team has been hard at work answering all the communities request on who should have a N and T rating that we almost forgot to rate the new units. Not complaining, you guys are awesome!

    Regardless, Mia Alter is absolutely incredible. Sporting very strong damage alongside amazing defensive utility that can even replace Novio in many stages. (We still love you Novio) She does want BT3 in order to have such damage on the first turn, but she still ends up being very good.

  2. New Unit Rating
    • Schwartz: Almighty Clamor

    Initial rating: S-/S+

    Schwartz Alter has potentially a damage ceiling that rivals MBT Fia, albeit very enemy dependant, very conversion/teleport dependent, and very much requires BT3.

  3. New Unit Rating
    • Jakine

    Initial rating: A/S(T)

    Jakine is a unit thats very much unit reliant to get the most value out of her. That said, I hope all you Hati enjoyers love her.

  4. New Unit Rating
    • Ophina

    Initial rating: A(N)

    A highly requested one, Ophina has some strong use cases in places like the Abyss thanks to her poison applicaton. And her conversion isn't terrible either.

  5. New Unit Rating
    • Mia

    Initial rating: A(N)

    Hey look at that, base Mia also got some love this update. Turns out we initially underrated the buff she recieved earlier, on top of just how good she can be in mobbing stages.

  6. New Unit Rating
    • Joanie Boom

    Initial rating: A(N)

    The 4* reset converters were something thats been frowned upon in the tier list (and for good reason), but Joanie Boom has shown that she has quite the potential thanks to her Equipment.

  7. Upshift
    • Keatings

    Updated from B+(N) to A+(N)

    The Keatings are a lot stronger now thanks to their refines. And the marks they accumulate are actually quite a strong teamwide buff.
    Noffy if your reading this, the kids have finally made it!

  8. Upshift
    • Vice: KS

    Updated from S- to S

    Just a general update on her, BT3 proved to be more impactful than we thought, so we wanted to reflect that a bit.

  9. Downshift
    • Areia

    Updated from S+ to S

    Downshifted due to the constraints on her damage and her overall fairly lackluster floor for an S+ unit.

  10. New Unit Rating
    • Areia

    Initial rating: S+(T)

    Team rating given after downshift to reflect her immense ceiling when properly enabled with multiple contact points.

  11. Downshift
    • Bethel

    Updated from S+ to S

    Extremely finicky minmaxing needed in general play to properly realize ceiling, which barely makes it into the cut for S+ as is.

  12. New Unit Rating
    • Bethel

    Initial rating: S+(T)

    Proper teambuilding with low-CD teammates makes it much easier to improve her damage to highly respectable levels.

  13. Other
    • Azure

    Updated Azure's write up to reflect how her damage ceiling compares to the rest in Water.

  14. Other
    • Hiiro

    A new write up that gives nuance to Hiiro's position in Forest.

  15. Other
    • Lilica

    Rewrote her description to better showcase her role as the shield bomb enabler. (This is also the 4th straight patch in the row we had to edit Lilica's write up)

  16. Other
    • Kleken and Faust

    Fear and Fright has also been looked down upon by the tier list, and we hope these new write ups do the status more justice.

6/9/2023

By Ivory

  1. Downshift
    • Allura

    Updated from A to A-

    Allura got her active bug fixed and her damage is not as strong as it used to be. Temporary stopgap since she might fall even further.

5/24/2023

By Ivory

  1. New Unit Rating
    • Goldie (T)

    Initial rating: SS

    Extremely long changelog ahead.

    Behold, the unit that broke the camel's back and the one responsible for the new T and N ratings.

  2. New Unit Rating
    • Lilica (T)

    Initial rating: SS

    Who knew all it took was a welfare to break an entire element's meta.

By Cuzimori

  1. New Unit Rating
    • Minos (T)

    Initial rating: SS

    Minos can operate on either Goldie, or on his own merits, and this rating is an extention of his previous one.

  2. New Unit Rating
    • Axelia (T)

    Initial rating: S+

    Axelia has aged a lot better than we initially thought, and her synergies basically create new team comps.

  3. New Unit Rating
    • Tessa (T)

    Initial rating: S+

    Tessa has not only new units to play with, but said new units bolsters her damage to a pretty high degree.

  4. New Unit Rating
    • Lucoa (T)

    Initial rating: S

    Lucoa's synergies with many top tier DPSes pretty much makes her one of the best buffers in the game.

  5. New Unit Rating
    • May (T)

    Initial rating: A

    May is still bad, but she has gotten some strong use cases with Giles and 0 sanity Lenore.

By Alpaca

  1. New Unit Rating
    • Tina MBT (N)

    Initial rating: SS

    Behold the other unit that broke the camel's back.

By Cuzimori

  1. New Unit Rating
    • Giles (N)

    Initial rating: SS

    The first of the "sniper revolution" now can claim his rightful throne at the top, albeit with an asterisk.

  2. New Unit Rating
    • Odi (N)

    Initial rating: S+

    With DoT being more and more relevant, Odi has become a monster of a unit, even outside of Elysium.

  3. New Unit Rating
    • Brock (N)

    Initial rating: S

    Brock was always solid, but he's now even better thanks to more and more emphasis on mobbing in the game.

  4. New Unit Rating
    • Nails (N)

    Initial rating: S

    Just like Odi and Victoria, Nails is very good in DoT content.

  5. New Unit Rating
    • Zhong Xu (N)

    Initial rating: S

    While still very disappointing, Zhong Xu still has some strong use cases that can make him an appealing option in certain stages.

  6. New Unit Rating
    • Vivian MBT

    Initial rating: A+

    Feet conversion will always be the funniest thing known to man, but Vivian is actually quite solid in said niche at MBT.

  7. New Unit Rating
    • Raphael (N)

    Initial rating: A-S+

    Raphael is the very definition of niche, and now we finally have a way to properly display her.

  8. New Unit Rating
    • Erica (N)

    Initial rating: A

    As it turns out, being the only decent reset converter in Thunder gives Erica a niche.

By Eclogia

  1. New Unit Rating
    • Jane (N)

    Initial rating: A

    The true queen of Nightnium farming. Also some decent application in some stages.

  2. New Unit Rating
    • Chandra (N)

    Initial rating: A-

    The (second) best Nightnium farmer in the game. Also decent applications in mobbing stages.

By Cuzimori

  1. New Unit Rating
    • Keatings (N)

    Initial rating: B+

    Aggro is a lot better now, but Keatings, even with their refines, are still kinda mid.

By Eclogia

  1. Other
    • Bethel

    Rewrote her description to better explain her kit.

  2. Other
    • Kayano

    Mentionned Kristen hinting at future Water Captain Swap shenanigans.

  3. Other
    • Gronru

    Not generating enhanced tiles outside Forest isn't nearly as big as the old description made it out to be.

  4. Other
    • Nikinis

    Adjusted the description which slightly referred to Gronru in light of the above change.

5/23/2023

By Cuzimori

  1. New Unit Rating
    • Leo

    Initial rating: S+

    Semi-long changelog coming.
    Leo is a monster in Enhanced Tile teams and doesn't even need Goldie to do be great. Requires a whole lot of investment in order for him to perform that well, but well worth it for the Leo lovers out there.

By Ivory

  1. New Unit Rating
    • Yingel

    Initial rating: A- - S

    Yingel is a fine, if uexciting, converter with fine, if unexciting, damage.

  2. New Unit Rating
    • Anatoli

    Initial rating: A

    Incredible art and incredible sound effects, so glad they made this unit useful.

  3. Upshift
    • Leona

    Updated from A to S-

    Turns out Leona is significantly better than we initially viewed her as. Still quite clunky, but still decently powerful.

By Alpaca

  1. Upshift
    • Philishy

    Updated from S- to S

    The Dollar Cat has return back to her original rating.

By Cuzimori

  1. Upshift
    • Frostfire

    Updated from A+ to S-

    Frostfire is still the weakest of the Old Seal, but she continues to prove she's not weak at all.

  2. Upshift
    • Vice

    Updated from A to S-

    Her Refinements are actually insanely good, making her competitive at 1x1 and even good at 2x2.

By fourmana

  1. Other
    • Class Descriptions

    Changed the outdated class descriptions to mini-sentences that describes the kit.

By Cuzimori

  1. Other
    • Vic

    Rewrote his write up to reflect his niche in being the best 5th slot option in a dedicated 1x1 comp.

  2. Other
    • Giles

    In anticipation for his new niche grade, we rewrote his pros/cons and description.
    The Niche and Team ratings will be shipping with this update later on in the week, alongside the reddit post.

4/17/2023

By Ivory

  1. Other
    • Azure

    Changed the description of how her damage ceiling was unrivaled to "very high for how easy it is to achieve" due to her damage ceiling not actually being that high.

  2. Other
    • Sinsa

    Included in his description how Victoria (with Refinements) can be signficantly more impactful than he can.

4/16/2023

By fourmana

  1. New Unit Rating
    • Hati

    Initial rating: S+-SS

    Long changelog incoming.
    Hati is an absolute monster of a DPS; her ceiling is (theoretically!) the second highest in the entire game. She has high investment requirements and some playstyle difficulties, but I don't think that should dissuade most players.

By Cuzimori

  1. New Unit Rating
    • Kristen

    Initial rating: A+

    She's a decent detonator with a powerful but unsupported gimmick. High chance of becoming meta relevant down the road.

  2. New Unit Rating
    • Victoria R3

    Initial rating: S+

    Refinements drag Victoria kicking and screaming from worst 6* to one of the best.

By Ivory

  1. New Unit Rating
    • Regina R3

    Initial rating: S-

    A bizarre series of buffs make Regina a fairly competent mobber, given an insane amount of investment. I hope S67 is happy.

By [Punished] fourmana

  1. New Unit Rating
    • Wrath R3

    Initial rating: S

    Wrath is good now. Sort of. It's really janky and I have no idea why her R1 couldn't have been pre-strike... but I'll take it. I'm sure all 10 other Wrath enjoyers will, too.

By Cuzimori

  1. New Unit Rating
    • Corax MBT

    Initial rating: S-

    Flat attack buffs are strong. Water is wet.

By Ivroy

  1. New Unit Rating
    • Cuscuta R3

    Initial rating: A

    One of the most unfortunate examples of a typo I've ever seen.

By Alpaca

  1. Upshift
    • Tina BT3

    Updated from S- to S

    She's not... as bad as we thought, but she's still not exactly a comfortable option for most players. Notably good in some high-end stuff.

By Cuzimori

  1. Upshift
    • Taki

    Updated from C to A-

    Taki's buffs were pretty good. We still gotta do a lot more testing before we raise him any further, but I could be convinced to take him up a notch or two. Conversion is conversion.

By Alpaca

  1. Downshift
    • Rinne BT0

    Updated from A to B

    This was a long time coming, and BT0 Tina was the trigger to finally send her down.

  2. Downshift
    • Sinsa

    Updated from SS to S+

    RIP The King

By Ivory

  1. Other
    • Paloma

    A new write-up to reflect her value in E-Tile teams

  2. Other
    • Lilica

    Moved to Support due to our tiering philosophy and her general utility.

By AlanaEclogia

  1. Other
    • Other

    Some spring cleaning, including capitalization of in-game terms, formatting, and making the write-ups easier to understand. No, Sharona and Migard did not get updates. Their refines are kinda mid as far as we can tell.

3/12/2023

By fourmana

  1. New Unit Rating
    • Leyn

    Initial rating: A+ - S+

    Leyn is okayge at BT0 and goodge at BT3. MBT is comfy but not strictly necessary in our estimation.

  2. New Unit Rating
    • Tina

    Initial rating: B - S-

    Tina is very underwhelming. Please don't dump your lums into her BT3 like I did. You'll regret it.

  3. New Unit Rating
    • Matthieu

    Initial rating: S+

    Breaking News: 4-Tile Converter is Good!!!! Let's check in with the weather to see if water is still wet.

    Also, funny Lilica synergies.

  4. New Unit Rating
    • Naroxel BT2

    Initial rating: S-

    Naroxel is pretty meta, especially with the release of Jeriah and Minos. We're now including a split grade for her BT2 to reflect that.

  5. New Unit Rating
    • Noah BT2

    Initial rating: A-

    Noah's defensive utility isn't... that bad. Though it's still pretty bad. Also, Lilica is a thing. Funny DEF ignore number go up enough that there's now a BT split and a new write-up.

  6. Downshift
    • Sadie

    Updated from S- to A+

    Sadie just feels awkward to play, and she loses too much damage when paired with proper converter support.

  7. Other
    • Some Fire Write-Ups

    Since Matthieu is meta defining in his own way, we've went and redid several Fire writeups to reflect his impact.

3/9/2023

By Ivory

  1. Downshift
    • Korgon

    Updated from D+ to D

    A minor adjustment to a terrible unit. Tier list update coming soon.

2/25/2023

By Ivory

  1. Other
    • Various Units

    Fixed the many typos that were still present in the tier list.

2/14/2023

By fourmana

  1. New Unit Rating
    • Jeriah

    Initial rating: SS

    AREIA PACKWATCH ALL THE HOMIES SMOKING PURE E-TILES

  2. New Unit Rating
    • Kya

    Initial rating: A-

    Kya is kind of funny, but ultimately pretty underwhelming. A good option for Tessa teams. Has the potential to surprise us, though. 0CD Teleports are weird.

  3. Other
    • Goldie

    Updated Goldie's description to reflect her high ceiling in enhanced tile teams. Happy Valentine's!

2/13/2023

By fourmana

  1. New Unit Rating
    • Fia MBT

    Initial rating: SS

    Been a long time coming. The difference between BT3 and MBT Fia is massive; at MBT, she can compete with Azure.

  2. Other
    • Nails

    Fixed Nails' horrifically outdated description. Don't worry, the review for Jeriah is likely dropping tomorrow :)

1/29/2023

By fourmana

  1. Other
    • All Fire Units

    Cleaned up all the descriptions for Fire Units, which were greatly outdated.

1/18/2023

By fourmana

  1. New Unit Rating
    • Mu Yuebai

    Initial rating: S-S+

    Very high ceiling, acceptable floor. Has quite a bit of trouble without BT3 and/or strong conversion.

  2. New Unit Rating
    • Zhong Xu

    Initial rating: A+

    An unfortunate case of being in the wrong game. Very fun, at the very least!

  3. New Unit Rating
    • Liqing

    Initial rating: S-

    Healer that gives damage buffs. Slightly worse than Novio in most situations... which is still pretty damn good.

12/18/2022

By fourmana

  1. New Unit Rating
    • Goldie

    Initial rating: A-S-

    A jack of all trades, master of none. I don't hate her, or anything, but I don't think she's anywhere near the power level people expected her to be at. The JP Appmedia tierlist put her at their "SSS tier," though, if you want a laugh.

  2. New Unit Rating
    • Vic

    Initial rating: A+

    I'm so mad they made him bad. Why! Why!!!

    Jokes aside he's just kinda okay. His nonstandard damage formula and targeting priority are interesting but weak.

  3. New Unit Rating
    • Brandy

    Initial rating: S

    Four Tile Converter is good. Water is wet. More at 11.

11/27/2022

By fourmana

  1. New Unit Rating
    • Axelia

    Initial rating: S

    Great synergies and healing aside, there's really no spot where Axelia is truly best in slot. A strong unit regardless.

  2. New Unit Rating
    • Beretta

    Initial rating: A

    A unique Healer/Sniper hybrid that unfortunately lags behind in both categories.

10/24/2022

By fourmana

  1. New Unit Rating
    • Lilica

    Initial rating: S+

    Does anyone read these changelogs? I'm really tired. I worked, like, 12 hours today and then came home and knocked this out. My favorite band right now is the Minutemen, if you're wondering. I'm listening to them right now. Check out "Viet Nam," or maybe "I felt like a Gringo." Classics!

    Also Lilica is good, like really good. She's kinda good at everything, although she's got a lot of jank (perhaps bugs?) with her shield-based equipment, which can burst like crazy. BT3 isn't listed here, but it's really relevant in making her easy to use.

  2. New Unit Rating
    • Minos

    Initial rating: S-SS

    We finally have an SS-tier ST Sniper, and even now it's with a lot of ifs. Great damage but a lot of skill and/or money required to make it happen.

  3. New Unit Rating
    • Sadie

    Initial rating: S-

    For a welfare, Sadie is awesome. Her flat attack buff is crazy, and her normals having a crit is pretty fun. Her drawbacks prevent her from creeping any higher than S- tier but I'm happy I raised her regardless. Fun unit.

  4. Other
    • Some Fire Write-Ups

    Fire is actually now the most mobile element. We're slowly going through those old write-ups to reflect that.

9/24/2022

By fourmana

  1. New Unit Rating
    • Pollux

    Initial rating: A-SS

    Despite not being nearly a OP as Carleen and Hedy, Pollux's conversion is still broken enough, on top of needing less BTs, to push her into SS tier at BT3.

  2. New Unit Rating
    • Casta

    Initial rating: A

    A detonator that may not have the best damage, is still flexible on both 1x1 and 2x2 bosses.

8/27/2022

By Ivory

  1. New Unit Rating
    • Fia

    Initial rating: S+

    Incredible debuffs and great personal damage allows her to compete with some of the best DPS Water has to offer.

  2. New Unit Rating
    • Jeno

    Initial rating: S

    A good unit with incredible potential on Lenore/Giles teams. Good buffer/healer that has brings a lot, even if Louise usually ends up outperforming him.

  3. New Unit Rating
    • Rainbow

    Initial rating: B+

    A welfare that, while still having some things going for her, ends up missing the mark in many areas.

8/6/2022

By Ivory

  1. New Unit Rating
    • Carleen: Smoldering Soul

    Initial rating: S

    Despite having limited teleportation and limited ways of applying tiles, the new Carleen manages to deliver an all around fantastic kit that has synergies with almost all of the current Fire roster.

  2. New Unit Rating
    • Ciel

    Initial rating: S

    Just like all the other 4 tile converters, Ciel manages to do her job well, and even provides some okay damage to boot.

7/23/2022

By AceZero

  1. Other
    • Charon

    Updated from S to S

    We removed the pro referring to his "potentially SS tier damage" due to his damage in fact being very average for S tier.

  2. Other
    • Tier Description

    Updated tier descriptions to better reflect the idea behind the tiers

By reanimu

  1. Spreadsheet

    Reintroduced BT and +/- into naming scheme for future-proofing

7/19/2022

By Fourmana

  1. Downshift
    • Michael

    Updated from SS to S+

    This may be a controversial move, but BT0 Michael's time as best-in-slot is pretty clearly over with the addition of Reinhardt and Florine. Her damage just can't compete with those two, and the additional utility of a 3CD TP is less relevant when Reinhardt can Cntrl+A Delete anything she wants anywhere on the map. DM me if you're looking for some calcs on this, as I believe other members of the team have pretty solidly proven Michael to no-longer be BiS at BT0.

  2. New Unit Rating
    • Michael MBT

    Initial rating: SS

    ...On the other hand, MBT Michael has quite the niche in the 3CD MBT Whale comps that many thunder whales have opted for, with great set-up for turn 1 full-circles using preemptive nemesis and irridon. We believe this extra turn of burst is worth differentiating.

  3. Upshift
    • Chloe

    Updated from A to S-

    Chloe has long been underrated by our tier list, and today we're rectifying that. The fact that she's capable of acting as either your 2nd or 3rd DPS on incredibly difficult stages (up to and including Elysium - Existence and F96) is ridiculous, and we believe it firmly pushes her into Tessa territory; i.e. best four-star in the game.

  4. Other
    • Nina
    • Vice: KS
    • Three Star Garbage
    • Double Chainers
    • Cross Converters
    • Four Tile Converters

    We are fixing many of the old or otherwise unrevised write-ups today and tomorrow.

7/15/2022

By AceZero

  1. Downshift
    • Requiem

    Updated from S+ to S

    She is great in both 2x2 and 1x1 performance, but isn't top tier in either. She's extremely flexible, but that's not good enough for S+ (anymore).

  2. New Unit Rating
    • JOKER

    Initial rating: S-

    Joker is a very strong mobber but isn't exceptional in most contexts. Very flexible but not on par with the S tier units.

  3. New Unit Rating
    • QUEEN

    Initial rating: S

    Extremely strong normals attacks and chain with AOA make her a high end DPS. Even better, she has strong synergy with units such like Reinhardt, making her an easy S.

  4. New Unit Rating
    • FOX

    Initial rating: S

    Very strong generalist DPS who thrives as a consistent high-damage captain with strong burst via AOA.

  5. New Unit Rating
    • VIOLET

    Initial rating: B+

    Violet is rather pitiful as 5 star DPS go; she has mediocre damage, and not even AoA synergy with Joker is enough to offset it. Still, she's playable if you want her. Not awful but not particularly great.

  6. New Unit Rating
    • MONA

    Initial rating: A-

    An okay sniper with good burst with AOA; valuable in auto farming. Not earth shattering, but decent enough for a wellfare.

7/10/2022

By AceZero

  1. Other
    • Lenore

    Updated from S to S

    Updated description to better reflect current opinions. Added focus on her utility and chain range.

  2. Other
    • Barton: DB

    Updated from S- to S-

    Updated description to better reflect current opinions. Focused more on his kit rather then strictly comparing him to Areia.

  3. Upshift
    • Kuma&Pengy

    Updated from B to B+

    His good utility with conversion on his skill gives him an edge over many of the more mediocre units in B tier.

  4. Upshift
    • Wrath BT3

    Updated from B to A-

    Wrath BT3 damage output is high, very akward are difficult to optimize, but still reasonable if you wanted to run her.

6/28/2022

By AceZero

  1. Downshift
    • Yao

    Updated from S- to A+

    The more calcs we run, the more it looks like Yao is basically useless. There is almost no redeeming quality here given her competition. Tune in next week, when we finalize that Robyn has better DPR. Edit: Yes, Robyn does beat her in 1st round burst.

  2. Downshift
    • Victoria

    Updated from A to A-

    No notable niches, subpar damage, and extremely mediocre healing from skill. She's clearly in the bottom of the barrels of 6 stars

  3. Downshift
    • Philyshy

    Updated from S to S-

    Phily is a fantastic low utility medic, but low utility medics aren't ideal in the late game. BT3 Raphael is preferable.

  4. Downshift
    • Fleur

    Updated from S to S-

    Fleur is good at everything he does, but is almost never best in slot. Very strong generalist but more specialized units above him are more useful in most accounts.

  5. Upshift
    • Roy BT2

    Updated from S- to S

    BT2 Roy's extreme flexibility in the end game justifies his shift up to S, especially if we're retiering BT0 Roy.

6/23/2022

By fourmana

  1. New Unit Rating
    • Sanae

    Initial rating: A-

    We’ll be honest – we need more time to determine Sanae’s overall ranking, but for now, we’re going to err on the conservative side because of how janky her kit is and because of how stiff her competition is. In the meantime, we don’t think she’s anywhere near a mainstay in Thunder, so A- seems appropriate.

  2. New Unit Rating
    • Nina

    Initial rating: S-

    First impressions can be deceiving. Nina is still probably on par with a unit like Sharona or Regal, but the combination of her painful BTs and her slower-than-anticipated play-lines are enough to prevent her from going toe to toe with the better Water Detonator from Umbraton, Bethel.

  3. Upshift
    • Vice: KS

    Updated from A+ to S-

    After some more testing, Vice BT0 is close enough to Conolly that S- is okay. Note that when her MBT becomes available, she will easy compete for best DPR in water outside of Azure, which means her final rating is likely to be S+.

6/19/2022

By Ivory

  1. Upshift
    • Rabbie

    Updated from C to B

    We wanted to move Rabbie since her Global Teleport is still incredibly useful in some scenarios, even if the rest of her kit is mediocre.

6/14/2022

By reanimu

  1. Other

    Shifted BT0 Cross-converters from the Support section into the Converter section of the General page. Since we've moved away from separating the main page into the slots units fell into in team-building, it makes sense to move BT0 Cross-converters to where their upgraded counterparts lie.

By fourmana

  1. Spreadsheet

    The old explanation at the bottom of the spreadsheet FAQ made no sense because it was... well, very old. I've tried to patch it with duct tape for the time being but I suspect it'll always be a thorn in my side.

By Ivory

  1. Other
    • Various

    We've went through and did a bit of "spring cleaning". Change and added niche ratings to better reflect the purposes of the unit. (I.E added the "DoT Applier" niche rating) More changes will be coming soon in regards to low rarity units.

6/8/2022

By Ivory

  1. Downshift
    • Ruby

    Updated from A to A-

    We've moved Ruby down to match the other cross convertors at BT2 due to sharing the same cooldown and weaknesses.

  2. Downshift
    • Connolly

    Updated from S to S-

    While her 1x1 damage is extremely respectable and comparable to some of the best snipers, she still ultimately lags behind other strong snipers in 2x2 damage along with a 3-5 turn wind-up on her chain combo to reach maximum stacks.

6/7/2022

By fourmana

  1. Downshift
    • BT0 Cross Converters

    Updated from A- to B

    The cross converters (Barton, Sikare, Nemesis, Maggie) will be lumped together in changelog for future peace of mind. Anyways, BT0 really sucks and the change to how I handle flex slots (back to "support") means that I can throw them back down into B tier with a clean conscience. We've added a BT2 rating to compensate.

  2. Downshift
    • Smokey

    Updated from Meme World to S

    They fixed her. May all of us who finally cleared [Insert awful fire level of your choice] while she was bugged have a moment of silence.

  3. Upshift
    • Barton: Deft Blades

    Updated from A+ to S-

    To be clear, Barton is still a unit we'd avoid barring personal preferencee; it's just that he's more ccompetent than our initial tiering of A+ seems to imply. He's capable of doing all floors 90+, which is good enough by our standards. He also isn't much worse than Yao as an all-in-one kinda unit. To the bottom of S you go.

  4. Upshift
    • Ms. Blanc

    Updated from B+ to A-

    I don't know why people wanted her in B to begin with, but she's still one of the best budget options if you don't have anything else, and a large reason why many accounts start in Water after pullling Sariel regardless of their other pulls. Her kit is awkward but 4 tile conversion is still 4 tile conversion.

  5. Other
    • BT2 Cross Converters

    Initial rating: A-

    Added the BT2 Cross Cons, which can act as dedicated converters if you're desperate enough.

  6. Other
    • Carleen and Hedy

    Updated from SS to SS

    For future reference, all changelog stuff related to these two will be together as they're basically the same unit. Anyways, I moved them back over into Support now that I've renamed and re-explained how you should view units in the third column.

6/4/2022

By reanimu

  1. Upshift
    • Smokey

    Updated from S to SSS

    Recent Smokey buff is bugged, applying 2x Manticore's kiss damage, to the entire team. We thought it'd be funny to post about it. Please do not think she's the best unit in the game permanently. She goes back to S, right after this gets patched, and we're expecting that to be soon.

6/3/2022

By fourmana

  1. New Unit Rating
    • Barton: DB

    Initial rating: A+

    The graveyard of six-star detonators in forest grows.

  2. New Unit Rating
    • Vice: KS

    Initial rating: A+

    We're still waiting on what her MBT looks like (which is what we'll rate moving forward), but as it stands right now, she's a vaguely unfortunate sniper who outdone not only by the likes of Fleur and Connolly (lol), but also Azure and Bethel (also lol). We're expecting her to be closer to S- once her BTs are available.

  3. New Unit Rating
    • Reinhardt BT3

    Initial rating: SS

    Reinhardt BT3 might actually be strong enough to get Michael off your team sometimes... again, see the writeup for more info.

  4. New Unit Rating
    • Reinhardt

    Initial rating: S

    We've got a tentative feel for Reinhardt - she's pretty strong. See write-up for more details, but know that her pending rating for BT0 is liable to change.

  5. Upshift
    • Connolly

    Updated from C to S

    This is unironically the largest buff a character has received in this game. Conolly is now actually really good on single-tile content.

6/1/2022

By fourmana reanimu

  1. Other
    • Various

    Updated Unit Icons and the FAQ
    Consolidated F-tier into D-tier, and upgraded previous D-tier units to D+

By AceZero

  1. Downshift
    • Keating

    Updated from B to C+

    Keating has a 4CD no pre-strike pull and a slow ramp up. They're simply sub-par outside of select strats.

By fourmana

  1. Upshift
    • Frostfire

    Updated from B to A+

    Yay! The buffs are relevant! While Frostfire is still too awkward to have a defined best-in-slot moment, she's undoubtedly more than capable of holding her own as a Splash Sniper. As with Conolly and Smokey, we'll be monitoring performance closely in the following weeks to see if this early assessment is off the mark. She's still the worst Old Seal character, if you're wondering.

By AceZero

  1. Upshift
    • Uriel BT0

    Updated from C to B-

    Even without, preemptive Uriel offers decent damage with a her row chain combo and respectable stats. Compared to other units in C, she deserves to go up.

  2. Upshift
    • Raphael BT0

    Updated from C to B-

    See above. Along with heal utility.

  3. Upshift
    • Gabriel BT0

    Updated from C to B

    See above, plus her great chain combo.

  4. Upshift
    • 2x Chainer

    Updated from S to S+

    2× Chain units all see constant and consistent use in nearly all end game content, within their respective elements, they allow for some of the most monstrous burst in the game, justifying their placement in the very top end.

  5. Upshift
    • Amy

    Updated from C to B

    Amy's healing performance is very strong for her rarity, outpacing that of Alice, in addition, Alice A3 1 statline is on par with Amy A2 max, meaning Amy could more then likely do a majority of spire with minimal issues, justifying her shift up

5/31/2022

By fourmana

  1. Downshift
    • Unimet

    Updated from A to B

    This one's been a long time coming. Unimet's items are powerful, but the real reason you bring a 3* converter is conversion and... well, at a rate that's more 50% worse than the 4-tile converters and without their burst, it's hard to justify placing her in the same league as Tiny One.

  2. Downshift
    • Genevieve

    Updated from A to B

    Another housekeeping. Gene was never good; you just took her cus Fire sucked that badly when it came to mobility. She's still not bad, it's just hard to justify running her over anything these days. Speaking of which...

  3. Upshift
    • Smokey

    Updated from A to S

    Smokey's kit has been entirely reworked; we've rewritten our analysis to reflect that. With the massive increase to her overall DPR and the equally important extension of her TP range, we now feel comfortable stating that she's actually rather strong, and can make the cut on a ton of teams. As always with new kits, final rating pending until at least a week. Hang tight!

  4. Upshift
    • Uriel

    Updated from A+ to S-

    The angels have been a hot topic for some time now, and I'm happy we've finally settled on the better side of the border between S and A. Uriel and Raph both have stages where they're undeniably best-in-slot at BT3, which is enough for me to elevant their overall ranking.

  5. Upshift
    • Raphael

    Updated from A+ to S-

    See above.

  6. Upshift
    • Wendy

    Updated from B- to A-

    Wendy came across our radar thanks the the helpful /u/fullplatejacket, who points out the various synergies that can potentially elevant Wendy to geniuinely useful in the right situations. She's still... mediocre, all things considered, but not enough that she can stay in B.

  7. Upshift
    • Brock

    Updated from B+ to A-

    Brock is just a weird unit - He feels very strong in the applicable situations, but those situations are few and far between, especially in relevant difficult content. That said, we're generally trying to increase our ratings of units that have great (if not Best in Slot) performance in at least a few situations, so we can be generous and bump Brock up.

  8. Upshift
    • Barton

    Updated from B+ to A-

    We are moving all non-MBT Cross Converters both up a tier and across the street from Flex Slot to Converter Slot. This may confuse some players (I'm still not sure on it myself) but the rationale is that if you're early-game enough to need it, they'll do as converters (though even then they kind of demand BT2 at minimum. Let us know what you think - I'm personally on the fence about it.

  9. Upshift
    • Sikare

    Updated from B+ to A-

    See above.

  10. Upshift
    • Nemesis

    Updated from B+ to A-

    See above.

  11. Upshift
    • Maggie

    Updated from B+ to A-

    See above.

  12. Other
    • Carleen MBT

    Updated from SS to SS

    This is rather pedantic, but MBT Carleen and Cargreen are really more about conversion than anything else; they also tend to take up the converter slot on dedicated whale burst comps. As with the above change, this is more about consistency than it is about viewing actual power level.

  13. Other
    • Hedy MBT

    Updated from SS to SS

    See above.

  14. Other
    • Bethlehem

    Updated from B to A

    In contrast to the Cross converters, Bethlehem gets an upgrade - but only by moving into the Flex Slot at BT0. While it's true she's god-awful in terms of tile output, 4 select tiles on a single turn is still 4 select tiles on a single turn. This gives her enough of a niche that she's serviceable alongside something like BT2 Barton -- but only in the dedicated Flex Slot, where she's now in time-out.

5/28/2022

By fourmana

  1. Other
    • Various

    Cleaned up a ton of the class rankings on individual units. Finally wrote an actual write-up for Momo and Anzu. Rewrote the ancient Carleen and Hedy analyses.

By reanimu

  1. Other
    • Various

    Added and corrected tidbits in the write-ups for Thunder units: Gronru, Requiem, Revy, Luke, Amemori, Eve, Wrath, Schwartz, Roy, Erica, Vivian, Tessa, Nadine, Kafka, and Unimet as well as Eicy and Mythos.

5/27/2022

By fourmana

  1. Downshift
    • Carleen BT0

    Updated from S to A

    If MBT makes everything in her kit just a little above rate, then BT0 has everything a little below rate. The shift downward seems fair given that you'd never use BT0 on a serious stage over a more standard 3rd converter.

  2. Downshift
    • Hedy BT0

    Updated from S to A

    See above; Carleen and Hedy are identical.

  3. New Unit Rating
    • Carleen BT3

    Initial rating: S

    Created new slot for BT3 Carleen; difference between 4CD and 3CD is significant enough that Carleen becomes extremely relevant on stages with 15+ turns, a la Irridon.

  4. New Unit Rating
    • Hedy BT3

    Initial rating: S

    See above; Carleen and Hedy are identical.

  5. Upshift
    • Gabriel BT3

    Updated from A to S

    We've long undervalued the strength of off-color pathing. That ends today! Gabby is used in all manner of top-end comps for forest, so there's no reason to mark her lower than S.

  6. Upshift
    • Raphael BT3

    Updated from A to A+

    Though arguably the weakest of the angels, Raph is still indispendsible on more than a few stages at BT3 (Shatterblast, the tanky Mara Sol, long stages with shattered or locked tiles, etc.). Our tiering system should account for that in her final rating.

  7. Upshift
    • Uriel BT3

    Updated from A to A+

    Uriel is pretty similar to Raph, and the trade between heals and extra tiles is pretty even in the aggregate number of stages you'll use either. A little bump up for being Best in Slot occasionally seems fair.

  8. Upshift
    • Eicy

    Updated from S to S+

    Eicy's incredible heal output, makes it so Fire can reliably run her and Istvan (for more healing) and comfortably clear most content without a dedicated healer. We still love you Novio. Of the 4 tile converters, she stands out for her great role compression kit.

  9. Other
    • Requiem

    Updated from S+ to S+

    Fixed the write-up, which had been misleading for months. The hybrid between bossing and mobbing is actually extremely relevant, and the write-up should reflect that.

  10. Other
    • Jona

    Updated from A to A

    Fixed the write up. Old write-up wasn't bad, but I prefer the way the new one contextualizes the unit within the Fire meta at large. Note that we'll probably have to redo the write-up yet again if Fire ever gets select tile conversion.

  11. Other
    • Brock

    Updated from B+ to B+

    Moved to Flex slot, as you really shouldn't be using Brock as a main DPS.

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